Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Heron problem!!

  1. #1
    dante27 is offline
    dante27
    has not specified a status.
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Long Island
    Posts
    18

    Heron problem!!

    Yesterday my wife and I came home to see a blue heron standing along side our pond. We quickly counted our koi and discovered that the feathered beast took a baby we raised that had grown to about 6". It broke our hearts! My wife names all our fish and she is dispondant to say the least. We netted the pond with our winter net to protect the rest of the koi, but this morning the bird was standing along side again!

    How can I keep the bird away? We have an owl perched on top of the pergula but obviously it doesn't matter. Help!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Hudson, WI
    Posts
    1,797
    Get a dog. Preferable a herding type like and Australian Shepard that will treat the koi like sheep.

  3. #3
    jeff reiter is offline
    jeff reiter
    has not specified a status.
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    charlotte nc
    Posts
    496
    your net is you strongest deterrent. there are autospray heads with motion detectors that spray the heron with water when he enters the scanning field. a dog in the backyard always works. a shade sail over the pond would help inhibit discovery, but they would still probably spot the fish. a plastic shelter on the bottom gives them a place to hide and get away. then there is always the state license for farmers that permits them to shoot.....never mind.

  4. #4
    ponyboy2442 is offline
    ponyboy2442
    Been a long year
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rockland NY
    Posts
    1,510
    Paintball gun and dogs worked for me

  5. #5
    RSFish1 is offline
    RSFish1
    has not specified a status.
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    23
    I always use an electric fence for a short wile when this happens. But I realize not everyone likes that idea.
    The net is a good deterent. But keep in mind that a determined heron could still try to spear the fish through the net. They will not get the meal but they could injure/kill the Koi still. Propping the net up 6-12" up off the surface will make it very difficult for the heron's long beak to reach the surface of the water and your fish.

  6. #6
    gray cat's Avatar
    gray cat is offline
    gray cat
    Is blowing leaves.
    Administrator ~ WWKC BOD ~ Facebook Administrator
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Winston Salem, NC. Zone 7b
    Posts
    43,361
    Sorry for your loss. I had the same problem for several years. I know this will sound silly & much to simple, but it has worked for two years for me. It has worked for everyone else that I have told also. I do keep a net over my pond just in case something other than Heron try to get my fish. But the Heron will not even come close to my pond any more.
    Go to Wal-mart or Target and buy Pin Wheels in the toy dept. The shiny ones made out of foil looking material. They come in different colors. They spin with the slightest breeze and reflect light all over the area around the pond. Two things Heron do not like is fast movements and shiny objects. I placed mine about every four feet apart around my pond. The Heron will land close to the pond but will fly off when the pin wheels start moving. My little GD had two, and one day wanted to put them by the pond. That is how I saw with my own eyes that the Heron were afraid of them. So I went to Wal-mart and bought more.
    They are about a dollar each. I told my family why they are there. I didn't want folks to think it was my decorating ideas. They are easy to pull up when you have company at your pond.
    For a dollar each, give it a try and let me know. It has worked for many here that I have told.
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Nancy



    Koiphen 2012 Koi Person of the Year!

  7. #7
    madeyna's Avatar
    madeyna is offline
    madeyna
    playing on koiphen
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    washington state
    Posts
    16,427
    Heavy fishing line strung up high keeps them from landing. The wings hit it and they don,t know whats getting them so they stay away. Mine is strung at anywhere from 6 inches to 6 feet above the pond. He still lands on the roof and looks but no more eating. I have used electric fencing as well but somehow someone always manages to touch it (me)and get zapped. I used the kids spinning flowers a few years ago for the q tank but they always seem to manage to walk off.
    YADA X 16 proud member of the blabbermouth club Have faith and hope in your self and each other and the world will be yours TINA




  8. #8
    Stuart77047's Avatar
    Stuart77047 is offline
    Stuart77047
    has not specified a status.
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Houston Tx
    Posts
    153
    I tried a fake heron and alligator. They don't work. I tried the water shooting scarecrow. It worked, but the heron tend to figure it out. I had a "friend" who tried to shot them with pellet guns, but wanted a more humane to deal with them.

    I have a half chihuahua and half wiener dog mix. He is built close to a rat terrier but a little longer. Very fast. When any bird lands in my yard he wants to go chance them. Of course I ag it on with a "get the bird" "get the bird". He was always very good at running off heron when he or I would see one through the window. After losing about 7 fish in a months time, I put in a doggy door to see if my dog would run them off during the day. Well since he can get out a lot faster through the doggy door, he can almost catch a slow moving heron. I guess that scares them enough that they just don't come back. I now see a couple here and there. I guess it is when they forget or new ones come around, but non stay long. So you don't even have to get a big dog, just one that likes to chase things.

  9. #9
    dante27 is offline
    dante27
    has not specified a status.
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Long Island
    Posts
    18
    Thanks, my wife and I are going to try various different ideas (probably not getting a dog though). Anyone else with ideas would be appreciated

  10. #10
    nmtsaki's Avatar
    nmtsaki is offline
    nmtsaki
    A colonoscopy saved my life - schedule one today!
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Oak Park, MI
    Posts
    11,515
    I have a 3 foot high aluminum fence with spikes () around mine (decorative), then I string the net over that. Have herons peek, but they can't lean over the fence to spear them, either. You can also buy a wrought iron version, but it doesn't last long, or one of the loopy wire things that are put around gardens.



    The greatest pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him, and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself, too. -- Samuel Butler.

    My little dog - a heartbeat at my feet. -- Edith Wharton.

    I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive. -- Gilda Radner

    Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement. -- Snoopy




  11. #11
    dante27 is offline
    dante27
    has not specified a status.
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Long Island
    Posts
    18

    Angry

    Help! The dirty bird poked through the net and stabbed another fish but couldn't take it. The fish has two serious stab wounds. I moved it to a 75 gallon fish tank we have but how do I treat the wounds?

  12. #12
    DarleneD's Avatar
    DarleneD is online now
    DarleneD
    is tired
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Tampa FL
    Posts
    12,217
    You might want to move this to the emergency section so people will easily see it.

  13. #13
    sundan's Avatar
    sundan is offline
    sundan
    has not specified a status.
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Lake Wales Fla
    Posts
    2,100
    Quote Originally Posted by gray cat View Post
    Sorry for your loss. I had the same problem for several years. I know this will sound silly & much to simple, but it has worked for two years for me. It has worked for everyone else that I have told also. I do keep a net over my pond just in case something other than Heron try to get my fish. But the Heron will not even come close to my pond any more.
    Go to Wal-mart or Target and buy Pin Wheels in the toy dept. The shiny ones made out of foil looking material. They come in different colors. They spin with the slightest breeze and reflect light all over the area around the pond. Two things Heron do not like is fast movements and shiny objects. I placed mine about every four feet apart around my pond. The Heron will land close to the pond but will fly off when the pin wheels start moving. My little GD had two, and one day wanted to put them by the pond. That is how I saw with my own eyes that the Heron were afraid of them. So I went to Wal-mart and bought more.
    They are about a dollar each. I told my family why they are there. I didn't want folks to think it was my decorating ideas. They are easy to pull up when you have company at your pond.
    For a dollar each, give it a try and let me know. It has worked for many here that I have told.
    wonder how the pinwheels would do attach to my lines above pond? I also have osprey hawks that are a problem.
    Attached Images Attached Images  

    Click for Lake Wales, Florida Forecast

  14. #14
    madeyna's Avatar
    madeyna is offline
    madeyna
    playing on koiphen
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    washington state
    Posts
    16,427
    If you have good clean water in the qtank you probly won,t have to treat other than watching really close. A little iodine/bedine on the wound works. Thats only if they arent deep wounds of course. There are several very good products you can buy just for woulds that are a good idea to have around. I cann,t think of the name but there is a dip thats called something like tryoneo that I used years ago thats very good. There are also some good ointments that you put right on the wound. Don,t remember the name of that one either I got it from the vet. Hopefully someone will chime in with some names. I think wound treatment is probly on a sticky at the top.
    Last edited by madeyna; 09-10-2010 at 12:15 PM.
    YADA X 16 proud member of the blabbermouth club Have faith and hope in your self and each other and the world will be yours TINA




  15. #15
    jeff reiter is offline
    jeff reiter
    has not specified a status.
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    charlotte nc
    Posts
    496
    treat the wound with a sterilization product like betadyne or potassium permanganate. debride is an ointment to put over the wound and will be water resistant. raising the quarantine water salt level to 0.3 percent helps the koi to more easily get rid of water and puts less stress on its kidneys. raising the water temperature helps the fish's immune system to be more efficient and fight infection. koi wounds heal from outside in, so you should see the wound form a white surface as it heals, but with a deep wound, the internal tissue will take time to heal. it might be just fine in your pond and might not need isolation after trauma treatment.

  16. #16
    Merlin's Avatar
    Merlin is offline
    Merlin
    Still enjoying the Magic
    Merlin the Magnificent
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Slough, Berkshire, England
    Posts
    3,294
    Hi Grey cat, what a superb idea, one that would also work with ponds of any size. A large pond could have the foils going over the top . In the UK where there are power lines near to a lake, the same thing is added to the power lines to stop ducks and swans hitting them. They see the shiny objects and avoid them.
    Magic is just an illusion, Koi-Friends make it a reality
    Dave

    MVP Winner

    extra special son (Ahh thanks Mom)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •