Everything you ever wanted to know about mud ponds!
This is a link to my 1.000.000 gallon pond on my farm in Norway. I`m sorry the tread is in norwegian, but the pictures might intrest a few people. The pond is 15 years old, without any fish. But this week my frinds and I have drained it, and "cleaned" it. The plan is to fill it with Koi. ...
Hey everybody I am building a mudpond in the back hidden inside the woods. It will be about thirty by fourty and in an L shape. I want to raise new fry from my doitsu koi spawn in the spring and hold some oF my current store stock over the winter. How many 5 inch koi would I be able to put in...
Newbie to the forum and new to ponds and koi. Great site and I'm overwelmed by the informaton here. Been working on my mud pond for the last 2 years but, most of the real work done this year, last year was mostly exploration and learning about what my puddle did through the seasons. Done lots of...
Sir, i just got into koi's a month ago.. i have 0% knowledge on them.. BUT i would really like to learn alot about them. More importantly, im planning to build a koi pond,. 2-3 preferrably as a starting,. but i have no idea how or what to start on,. basically,. im thinking about a mud pond...
We have a mud pond about 50x100x4 deep and will ice over in winter. Does any one have any ideas how to keep a hole open for the gases to escape? We lost some big koi a couple of years ago. A stock tank heater doesn't seem to work. Have tried throwing a lot of rock salt in one area but...
I have been reading through the mud pond section and havenot seen mention from anyone as to what size seine they plan to use to remove their tosai and fingerlings with. In looking at Japanese farms this has been a consideration for sure. As a retired fisheries biologist I started work doing...
I've been waiting eight months to post this thread. Last March, 2009, this mud pond was dug in good clay soil. We didn't have a spring as a water source in or near the new pond. Instead we planned to draw water off a spring-fed brook that came from a field above me. We put in a bottom drain,...
My pond is +/ 90,000 gallons. I have roughly 54 koi of varying lengths. I have a fountain as well as an alita 80 compressor with two diffusers running. The center is 6-7 feet deep with the average depth of maybe 4 feet deep. I use Blue Bayou from Tractor Supply because I'd rather look at blue...
Here are some pictures of the mud pond dig that started here today.. It wil be 35x60x6.. About 95000 gallon.. We should be finished up are 4pm tomorrow.. Removing the top soil and starting the keyway..
I've got thousands of bugs in my mud pond which I also have koi fry in. I know they are eating the fry as I have watched them do it. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get these bug numbers down? The bug in the highest numbers is one I think is called a common backswimmer. Sits at the...
do any of you mud ponders go through a specific treatment for koi when removing them from the mud? IE: chemical treatments to either new tank or individual dips?
I need some expertise and after reviewing this and several message boards I have not seen anyone talk about what I am thinking about doing (it may be because it will not work). First, the pond is a former wet area in my yard. Previously, the "wet" are was 2 to three times bigger than the pond. I...
Hi All; I live on a 20 acre clear water shallow gravel pit lake stocked with largemouth bass, bluegill and yellow perch some 125' from the house. Presently, I building a 300' watercourse thru the backyard and will be pumping up some 5000 gph of lake water to a top 10'x10' overflow lined pond....
Koi are spawning in central Indiana today, earliest we can remember.
Hi, For the first time in 10-15years i have some nasty looking algae almost covering my pond it floats and is kinda hairy in large clumps about 1-2 feet around. what is it and how do i get rid of it ? Rick
Happy to say I have just brought another 1 1/2 acre to add to Sundan Koi farm. Will be adding 5 more mud ponds 120 x 60 x 10...:yes: Picture of the land ...
so how old or at what temperature do you put your fry into the mud pond ? or how do you determine when they go in ?
Last week I talke to a buddy of mine that has a mini trackhoe.. He was suppose to come over Thursday and dig me a small mud pond to grow out a few small koi that I have.. Well his mother became very ill an he wasnt able to come do it for me.. I descided to try it myself.. Here is the finish pond......
Well I finally drianed my pond and took all the goldies out(I hope).:yahoo: I had bought a sludge siphon and cleaned a lot of sludge out. I have a couple pockets as you can in the pictures. I still have to clean more. I do it for a couple hrs at a time. I set up my used 30hx10d ft pool and put all...
I have a few acres I would like to put a pond or two on. How any gallons per koi should I allow. I was planning a depth of ten feet and hoping for eight after it is all said and done. The pond closest to the house must be "pretty" or the gig is up. Other than that is there a shape or size I...
Hi, after the horrific tragedy of all my koi breeders either jumping out or being drug out of my pond see "help jumping out" I really have nothing to look forward too during spawning season. I only have one left that may not make it. I thought i would see if anyone would be interested in a joint...
Im about to start planning my pond...... I want it to be nice and not an eyesore.... however some mudponds with plants and goldifish look amazing to me.... I would like thoughts on this issue... http://www.gartenart.co.uk/photo_gallery_26.htm also with mud ponds...
Yesterday I went to my mud pond of about 100' in diameter and found 4 of my big koi (20-24") out on the ground around it!! 2 of them were still alive and 2 had been picked on by crows. This morning there were two more!! what is going on??? I dont think anything is getting them I think they are just...
As soon as the weather drie's up a bit we are gonna mover the dozer in here and get started.. Right now the ground is soaked.. We are suppose to get more rain this wee and then I think we will have a break in the weather (FINGURES CROSSED) I would like for everyone to chime in on this.. Tell me...
Pond is shaped and nearly to the 8' depth required. Dam is leveled and top soil put back around pond edges. getting some surface runnoff, too wet to finish grading.
Top soil pushed aside, pond shaped and started to dig out clay which will be used to form a road across a boggy bit. Last 2 images show we have reached blue clay which is being pulled up to sides to form dam.
Started at last, the ground is only just workable but able to break ground. These pics show day1 where the 20' x 40' pond is marked out, top soil removed and the core for the dam is dug.
With all the rain we have had plus now melting snow even a fairly large pond gets a good water change. 2nd pic shows the grassy area at the end of the pond where we are going to have a bog pond dug,(if it ever gets dry enough) this is an area that floods into the main pond when it rains, so we...
would like to ask what others use to seed mud pond for fry? I use chicken manure 10 days before spawning. Have heard others have use cottonseed meal, anything else that works?
Sorry folks I,m sure this question has been asked umpteen times but I cant remember where. In a mud pond how many gallons per fish would you recomend for good growth/health etc. Thanks.
Just thought i would share some pics of the mudpond herd, sorry they are murkey but I think thats the mud! Maybe I should have taken the pics before cutting the grass.
We are planning to add another pond/s and at first thought was to have a 50' x 30' x 6' dug (within our budget). Now we are thinking that we might do better to have 2 smaller ones, say 25' x 30' which would givs us more flexibility. Our main aim is to be able to spawn in our big pond on mats etc...
Hi again, i have put my this year koi in a fish cage floating in my large pond. It is 4'x4'x12' using framing and 1/8 inch netting. Will they do ok this winter here in Virginia. The pond has frozen over pretty thick in the past but not every year. Is the 4' depth deep enough for them to stay warm...
I have noticed a Heron paying visits to our mud pond and although the fish are at the bottom right now I want to discourage visits later on when the fish are more active. The sides of the pond are at about 30to40 degrees so that may save any real bother? Does anyone have an effecient deterent...
just recently i dug our mud pond... we had decided to keep it exposed to the mud then to add a liner... BUT NOW...... i noticed there are quite a few crawdad "homes" in it. should i add a liner? because i planned on placing 200+ 2-3" koi from blackwater in there. i was wondering if...
I have read that the best clay to line a mud pond with is Sodium Bentonite clay. But I am also told that you end up with a thick, mucky bottom that will suck the shoe off your foot if you step in the pond. Is this right? and if so is there a better alternative to Sodium bentonite clay?
What is the recommended set up for a pump feeding a waterfall from a mud pond? I’m wanting to install an external pump for supply to a waterfall I’m building and I’m at sticking point on how the pond intake should be set up including depth, fish guard, etc. I also wonder if a pre filter is...
Hi, I need some expert advice. I had an April spawn, its now November and i still have quite a number of that spawn about 1-2" long and some even smaller. Others are 3-5". Am i wasting my time on trying to raise the small ones? They are in 55 gallon aquariums and quite crowded but doing well other...
Can koi coexist with bass, perch and a long necked nutria?
What would be the smallest size mud pond anyone would put in and still have it to where the fish would be healthy and gain good size? I have 3 acres behind the house and have been considering doing a small dig, maybe 30 x 12 x 7 deep. I though for airation I would put in a fountain for know. I...
I have a friend who is trying to stock a 50k pond with fish and he was wondering where he would look to find them in the Houston area.....
Oh boy have a lot to share with this update . First will be the geese problem ! Them the dreaded snapping turtle ! For two years now I have been feeding geese koi food . This year I said no way was I going to feed them . This season we had two pair return across the road and they have hatched...
It's a new mud pond. no fish. had not planned to put fish in this pond this year. want to have clean water for a while and perhaps swim in it. frogs have moved in -- of course -- and now have a skillion tadpoles, no predators. what should i expect? a skillion frogs? will they move to others of my...
Just had to change my liner in Indiana. Worried about my koi, 12 to 24 inches. I wonder if any algea will grow this winter, the koi always eat on it during the winter on the old liner.
Im in the process of costructing my pond and intend to use bentonite clay as a sealer as my area is 100% fine sand and it appears that this should do the trick.I was reading on the MSU wildlife and fisheries web site{www.msucares.com} that a dispersing agent such as sodium chloride or common salt...
I don't have a mud pond. I wanted to see if it would be feasible to create a small, simple one first before trying to build one next summer. I live in St Lawrence County in NY. When we dug for an above ground pool we noticed that rain water would take days to drain (the hole was about 2 feet...
Hi, I've had a 1/2 acre pond for 15 years no problem until last year it started to leak about 50 yards away, the pond is elevated. I wonder if anyone has used bentonite clay to try and stop the leak while the pond is still full. I've read where you can sprinkle the bentonite on the surface anyone...
Here are some pics of our mud pond some months on and quite a lot of rain later. When we had the pond dug it was at the end of 3 dry years for East TN, this year has made up for that (and then some!) After a couple of days of steady rain the run off into the pond can last up to a week with a steady...
I aerate my mud ponds during the three warm months, turn off the air when the temps drop to fifty. the ponds are 10-12 feet deep, average 300,000 gallons. i've been told to aerate when the air is warmer than the water, shut it off when the water is warmer than the air. i've been told not...
Hey everybody I am just now wanting to build myself a pond and observe the wildlife that uses it. I have done some reading on the subject and am now quite certain that I would like to use sodium bentonite clay to seal the bottom of my pond. I would like to know where I can get this clay. I would...
Thought I'd show a couple photos of the small mud pond I just started. Travis
Please help me figure out what size air pumps I need for my two, under-construction mud ponds. I have a 1/8 acre mud pond in construction now. It is a long skinny lima bean shape. 140 x 40 x 10-12 ft. deep. What size air pump do I need? Also on the drawing board for this month (if the ground...
The sketch on the aerial photo is roughly the placement of the new pond. the smaller circle is the spring which we were unable to incorporate because it was on a shale bed. however, the spring is making a nice little stream, other springs are filling the pond from the bottom, and we are landscaping...
:clap: ...Pond is 60' x 90' x 6' The shipment of sodium bentonite is arriving monday....Found some locally and saved a fortune on shipping :cheer:
Ok, so my koi finally spawned on Sunday and Monday. What a great show they put on! I took a lot of pics, but I stink, so only a few came out. So many eggs!!!! Pic #1 (http://www.csjkoi.com/pics/2009a.jpg) Pic #2 (http://www.csjkoi.com/pics/2009b.jpg) Pic #3...
Just a few more, not a champion among them but we love everyone.
Six forty-five EST, pond is pulled. The objective was to drain the pond, rehome non-koi fish, clean the pond as well as possible in short time frame, refill the pond with reduced fish load and reduced bacteria load. We captured all of the koi. Five of the 40 had small ulcers and are in QT. The...
hi mudponders. going to seine and drain the mud pond on wednesday.the pond is about 90 x 45 x 9. i've gotten two opinions on best product for disenfecting the pond. 1. lime 2. p.p. if it was your pond, what would you do??? thx!
Mornin' All, The ice is finally gone from the pond. My fish seem to have survived the winter. There's just a lot of silt and leaves in the pond. Spring cleaning!!! I'm not sure if this is a new product or not. It's a sludge siphen. It goes on a pressure washer. Northern Tool item # 22363. I...
I *might* have access to a 100x50 ft mudpond about 4 ft deep over the summer, it's on a very good friend's property and is less than 30 mins away from my house! :cheer: My questions are: There are a TON of aquatic salamanders (the um word n e w t is censored?????:confused:)and frogs in this...
I have a place out in my front yard on a hill side that stays wet 24/7 365 days a year.. It is about 20 feet from a wooded area.. When I mow my yard above it the ground is dry.. If I try and mow over that spot I will get almost stuck.. It is about 15 foot wide and probably 25 foot down the hill.....
I need some info :yes: We recently drained mud pond down to 2ft and removed fish.We have crappy source water so I have to buffer.Decided to lime this puppy.I did not drain completely.Actually added lime when refilling at about 4ft deep.Water went from dirty brown to crystal clear and sky blue...
Ok so out of curiosity I dumped a rubbermaid bin that's been sitting by the pond hole all winter. It was completely filled with water and I dumped it all into the hole, and the water held in the soil for a day and is still muddy/wet two days later...today. My question is, since I am not making...
I have done some reading on bentonite and kitty litter.. It appears that kitty litter (walmart cheap grade) is almost the same thing.. I see that it is just natural clay.. I have talked to some around here that have used it to seal the bottom of there mud ponds.. I was wondering what everyone else...
Ok, I have been thinking about digging a pond for awhile now. I finally have the money, but I am short on time. Come April I may be away for awhile, but I am unsure. I was going to build a regular Regulated pond, but as I said I am on a time schedule and there is no way I could put one together in...
Hi, all. I have a mud pond that needs to be drained and cleaned. I want to move the koi in this pond to a mud holding pond at the end of this month, hold them for about three months, after which, I'll return them to their clean, renovated mud pond in July. I probably have 40-50 koi in the...
Hi all, I have overstocked my liner pond am in the process of raising fry, my Husband and I will need to make a bigger one in the next year. I have two options and was hoping you might tell me the benefits. My property is on the low side, in which case if I dig a Mud pond I'll have to berm up my...
How much calcium chloride do you add to approx 500,000 of water to bring the hardness up... I guess that would all depend on what the hardness is at to begine with???
Luckly my pond has filled up over the last 3 days.. I check the hardness of the water and my kit says it is soft.. I have done some reading on here and some people say soft water is ok and some say you need hard water.. From what I can tell hard water will bring the colors out in the fish and make...
Hello everyone.. I have been considering a mud pond for koi for about the last year.. Well this fall, meslf and me neighbor dug it with 2 compact tractor with loader.. It is about 3/4 acre and is about 7-8 foot deep.. It took us almost 2 weeks to do it.. I really would have liked it to be deeper...
I told my DH about people with mud ponds and how they do pulls once or twice a year. I said they put the koi in the mud to grow bigger, but I don't know for sure why this happens? Is is just the volume of water per koi that results in the tremendous growth? Is it the nutrients they get?Do you feed...
Anyone know a good rain dance, our pond is filling but so slowly. 3 yrs of low rains in East TN, even the well is slow to fill. But still its holding what water there is ! Pond is approx 150' x 50' x 5'to6'.
I have a rather large mudpond and have lost some koi they seem to have something (parasite) but I can't be sure as they are pretty far gone when they surface. any ideas? Can you salt a mud pond? I used blue stone one time and killed all the koi in the pond so I know you can't use that. Any...
Hi, everyone, this is my first post on Koiphen. I have a spring-fed mud pond in zone 5, New York State. It is 90x40x an average depth of 8ft, approx. 230,000 gallons. The pond holds water, no problem. Problem is, the pond is never clear. A frog jumps in and creates a cloud of silt. Now think...
This year was a good year in the mud pond . Fair growth but great bright colors -. The results of a ton of lime last winter is paying off. Showa from Brady ---sumi developing nicely - bowl is 24" across Kohaku from Saki------3 year old fish- growing and pattern is spreading out !Love the...
HI All, New here but have been reading for a while now. I have a mud pond(converted wet area in yard). It's about 35x25. 3 to 5 feet deep. It's spring feed and water run off from higher ground. The water is always merky. I've tried to keep it clear but with no luck. I've used a sediment filter...
I have heard of using Sodium Bentonite clay. Tonight a friend told me thae a friend used plain salt. I thought that was strange. What have you used?
Woo hoo, my turn! 3 years ago I moved into a house with a natural pond filled with large (50-300#) rock. The rock had trapped debris over the years before I bought the house and go figure, it stunk! Over the last couple years I've been pulling all of the rock and old plastic liner out. The...
When you folks lime your mud pond(s), do you do this each year and disperse the lime into the bottom of the mud when they are drained down or just sprinkle it in the water throughout the season as needed? I'm excavating mine out next week and have new sodium bentonite to seal the pond with. I'd...
We have a farm pond behind our building. You can see it on Google Maps here (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&num=10&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=107313469375898736043.000451fcc4e1275edcb66&ll=34.592785,-86.552712&spn=0.002407,0.004351&t=h&z=18) The problem is that during the last two...
Here are some photos of girls going to summer camp. I moved 18 confirmed females to the mud pond today . Their age ranges from ten years old to one year . My koi buddy Ken came over and helped me . One sad note , I had a large male showa beautiful sumi, jump out of pond , I missed it today ,...
I have a pond that has lost all water and then it started to fill but stopped at 2 feet and will not raise .So i wanted to know what to do to fix this the best way and the cheapest .thx guy's
hi all from the UK, new member here (novice still), my question is, i built a pond 2 years ago, (it started off as a water feature until my neighbour bought me 2 very small fish) he has a large established pond....once bitten by the "koi bug" that was it! my pond is only 9ft x 5ft, i have...
I'm guessing the size at around 2500g anyways. I recently have been helping with the maintenance of this pond, it's not actually mine, it's my mother-in-laws. It's fed by a natural spring, and she told me that when her husband was alive he tried to line it but the liner floated, which I'm...
Here are some of the examples of what can happen. First photo is of a wonderful asagi last spring . See what she looked like when she came out of the mud pond . Water too soft !! She grew from about 12 " to 18" of growth . She has spent the winter in hard water 190 PPM gh - and Hi has recovered to...
I have a clay lined pond approx. 3000 gal. leaking 2-2.5" per day. I have considered using CSS-13 ( I believe that is correct). They say fish do not have to be removed when using this pour in vegetable type oil sealer. I would appreciate any information any member has on this. Does it work, is...
This will be my third season with a mud pond . What I have learned so far ! First season , I drained the pond after I bought this place , got the cat fish out and other unwanted fish out of the pond . I did have a spawning of bream that were smaller than my finger nail , that survived in the mud...
Hello all, my wife Janet and I are about to purchase 2 1/2 acres in East Tennessee near our lake house on Watts Bar lake. We intend to have dug one 1/8 and one 1/4 acre ponds, and if successful we will repeat them in a year or two. The land gently slopes and has a good percent of clay. There is a...
I have a property i maintain/oversee. The customer is wanting to start or stop treating it. Or just treat as little as possible. what needs done.
Hi All, Here is my gravel pit lake from a 2006 aerophoto.... at the end of the pit licence. In 2007, I started the construction for a watercourse thru the backyard for recycling the naturally clear filtered water from the lake up thru 3 lined ponds , some 150' of streambeds falling back into a...
how much lime does one use when refreshing a mud pond? thanks. L.
we drained our mud pond last week and are having it dredged this week. i've been reading about people putting lime in the pond. is this for ph control or something else? please advise.
Curious if any of you mud ponders/breeders use aeration in your mud ponds at all? Ive seen a few of the floating paddle types in some pics from Japan, but wonder if any of yall in the US aerate?
Here are some photos of my friends' new pond built last Fall. He didn't check his water parameters when he first filled it, put a dozen 5" goldfish and a couple shubunkins in and never saw them again. I was able to get up there (Vermont) to check his water parameters yesterday and this is what...
I got a couple of ponds that are too far for power to be brought in. Wondered if anybody has tried solar power to run aeration pumps and if so how big did they have to go to make it work ? Thanks for the help Andrew
A guy I know is having trouble with Water Moccasins in his friend's pond. Anyone have any solutions for this problem? If so, I'd really appreciate it, if you would share it with me, so I can help. His message to me reads.... I need some advice for a friend that has Water Moccasins in her...
I am somewhat new with this forum/site, because I just started the wonderful hobby of KOIs. My friend has a big mud koi pond, however she does not know much about taking care of it. She has many kois in the pond, very beautiful and big kois. We just put an aerator into the pond to let the fishes...
After posting in the emergency section what I thought was a 911 - it turned out to be just a fish with Sumi (?) colors coming out! :clap: I was very happy & relieved .. although feeling a little dumb about the whole situation ... :dumb: either way with my relief I started browsing through the...
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